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Tesla vs BYD: Market competitors or duopoly?

April 20, 2022 July 1, 2024

Is Tesla or BYD the world’s leading EV maker? They both are!

While who leads depends on over what period and how you count EVs, together they dominate world EV sales, and their combined position is strengthening. So, no undisputed world number 1 EV brand, even at year end 2023.

These two are the current EV market leaders, and as EVs gain market share, these two are on trajectories to become no #1 and no #2 car carmakers worldwide when EVs take over, if no legacy brand passes them. But will either of them ever reach true #1 before the chasing pack catches them?

This page reports and tracks progress.

Tesla Enigma & Musk Dummy Spit April 2024: No longer a car company? Will Tesla become another Twitter?

In April 2024, following a disappointing below expectations Q1 sales result, Tesla began layoffs to up to 20% of its workforce, announced a focus on "Robotaxi" in priority over a new more mass-market entry-level model sometimes referred by the press as the "model 2", and saw the departure of many Tesla senior personnel who had previously shared the stage with Musk at media events.

Can the EV world really afford see this move positioning the company key to having brought EVs this far as a "not a car company". What is happening? Are the layoffs etc. just Elon Musk having a dummy spit, a period of turmoil, or does the shadow of Twitter mean the dream of Tesla becoming a leading carmaker over?

BYD Atto 3, AKA Yuan Plus: 3rd bestselling EV globally.

As of March 2023, this EV from the BYD brand that few have heard of, has risen to 3rd bestselling EV globally behind the Tesla Model Y and Model 3, and could this year overtake the Model 3.

Despite this level of sales success, as the Atto 3, as it is known outside China, arrives in new markets, reviewers often struggle to communicate the significance. As the international bestselling model of the BYD brand responsible for 6 of the 10 top bestselling EVs globally.

Car Trucks EVs & Personal Mobility

2025: The future of cars, robotaxis & EVs. Will EVs die out, or eventually take over?

This page (and the video) look at key questions on the future of cars & EVs: Will robotaxis mean really no one will want to own a car anymore? Even if people do still want cars, will EVs just die out or eventually take over? What about hydrogen, e-fuels, or the countries like the USA dropping any climate agenda? EV have improved a lot, but need to do more before they are fully suitable for _most_ people. If EVs & infrastructure are just not yet ready for most people, what's the next step?

Car Trucks EVs & Personal Mobility

Cars, Trucks & EVs: Can the EV save the car?

This is the lead webpaper for all content related to personal vehicles, cars and trucks and their future. While most content is on the EVs and hybrids that I see as the future of transition of personal vehicles, the overall focus is on the future of car ownership. Many, even including Elon Musk, claim that in the future, people won't need to own a car. I suggest that sentiment misses that cars don't get gets us from A to B, but instead are places we spend the part of our lives while getting from A to B, and sometimes are even our home base when simply at B instead of A. In fact, a future where only the wealthy can own their own vehicles is heading towards the direction of reducing personal living space and "caged humans" where it could also be suggested "people won't need their own home". While site embraces moving to EVs, but no the agenda that EVs most be only ever smaller city cars, or better still just electric bicycles. EVs should allow the vehicles we want to own to be sustainable, that is provided we don't also succumb to living in cities that seek ever denser population densities.

Tesla & Elon Musk: Packages, Robotaxis & why Musk must go.

Commenced: November 28, 2025

This web page holds the scripts and notes on videos posted on the onefiniteplanet YouTube channel, and mostly provides an alternate way to view the same content.

BYD Shark 6: BYD rival for the Ford Ranger.

Commenced: June 5, 2024

The first pickup or Ute from BYD, and apparently not the last. BYD is starting with the same strategy as with their first ever production EV, starting with a range extended EV, with differs from typical plug-in hybrids in the main power is the 320kW from the electric motors, with the internal combustion engine there to extend the range to 840km and make a vehicle as capable for towing as the Ford Ranger Raptor.

BYD. Who is BYD?

Commenced: June 15, 2023 Updated: October 16th, 2024

2024 October 16: BYD becomes largest Automotive group as well as #1 brand.

BYD swaps places with Tesla for being 1st or 2nd biggest EV brand in the world, and is second to only Toyota in hybrids, and with BYD DM EV based hybrids is the world leader in plug-in hybrid sales and the world's second largest battery company. In 2024, BYD is a rising star in top 10 automotive companies for sales of all vehicles briefly overtaking Ford for 4th place in August 2023. In China, the world's largest vehicle market, BYD in 2023 took the lead from VW and Toyota as the bestselling brand of all vehicles inside China. No Chinese brand has ever been market leader in China before, and this not just of EVs but all sales including diesel and gasoline vehicles, despite BYD no longer selling ICE vehicles. In of March 2023, the Atto 3 from BYD rose to 3rd bestselling EV globally behind the Tesla Model Y and Model 3, but the world outside of China is only just starting to see the capabilities of BYD and quality of their vehicles and batteries.

Elon Musk 2024 dream of a $30 trillion future: Could it happen?

Commenced: June 18, 2024

While Tesla becoming the world leader in self-driving cars is still part of the dream, the US$30-trillion-dollar future is based on being the "Apple" of humanoid robots which will cost 10x what an iPhone does in the future be just as prevalent. Sadly, the dream no longer seems to contemplate being the global leader in EV sales, but does that matter? Surely if Elon can turn this dream into reality, he is worth that huge multi-billion dollar pay packet shareholders just voted to support. Problem is, everything has a limit, and even if Tesla overcomes all the risks to the plan, it still doesn't add up. Consider, how will everyone buy robots from Tesla if the robots take all their jobs?

Musk supports Trump 2024: Is US democracy for sale, and why would Musk be buying?

Commenced: July 24, 2024 Updated: August 14th, 2024

2024 Aug 14 : Musk and Trump for two hours on twitter.

Following the shooting at the rally on July 13, 2024, Elon Musk endorsed Trump and announced Musk would become potentially the largest donor to the Trump political cause. Speculation on why ranges from the shooting event motivated Musk to support Trump, to that Musk saw the shooting event as making a Trump victory inevitable and providing support is Musk's first step in managing an outcome he now sees as either inevitable, an opportunity, or both. All theories so far highlight problems with democracy in the US, and miss the reality that Elon Musk is now focused on agenda for a post-car future and craves having influence.

BYD Sealion 7: BYD targets the Model Y?

Commenced: June 5, 2024

The BYD Seal was very much a Tesla Model 3 rival, and soon the BYD Sealion 7 will be a Tesla Model Y rival.

BYD: BYD models coming in 2024/2025 to export markets of “the rest” such as Australia.

Commenced: June 6, 2024 Updated: July 3rd, 2024

2024 July 3 : BYD King or Seal 6?

This page is updated to track BYD plans, and upcoming models, set for widespread release in "the rest": the markets beyond China, USA and Europe. In 2024, EV marketing data still entirely focuses on 3 regions: China, the USA, and Europe, which so far account for 95% of EV sales. The remaining 5%, "the rest" is a huge over 2/3 of the world market of Oceana including Australia & New Zealand, Latin America including Brazil and, Mexico, the Middle East, Africa and Asian including India, Indonesia, Thailand, Malaysia and Singapore. While one strategy does not apply the same for the entire "the rest" market, there is enough in common between many markets to make this 2/3rd of the world a much greater prospect than the 5% suggests. In 2022, before BYD even became sales leader in China, BYD began to get serious about exports, and the export strategy continues to evolve and become more purposeful and includes plans for "the rest".

Tesla vs BYD: Market competitors or duopoly?

Commenced: April 20, 2022 Updated: July 1st, 2024

2024 July 3: Q2 2024 update.

Is Tesla or BYD the world's leading EV maker? They both are! While who leads depends on over what period and how you count EVs, together they dominate world EV sales, and their combined position is strengthening. So, no undisputed world number 1 EV brand, even at year end 2023. These two are the current EV market leaders, and as EVs gain market share, these two are on trajectories to become no #1 and no #2 car carmakers worldwide when EVs take over, if no legacy brand passes them. But will either of them ever reach true #1 before the chasing pack catches them? This page reports and tracks progress.

Software and tips for BYD Atto 3 + other BYD EVs.

Commenced: May 22, 2023 Updated: July 1st, 2024

2024 July 1 : 1.8 software release for Atto 3.

Although this page was launched with information on side loading Apps to the BYD Atto, it is progressively being updated with more tips for BYD Atto 3 owners such as charging and battery care. For those considering buying an EV or other content on the Atto 3 and on BYD can be found on other EV pages on this site. Rather than a typical webpaper, this page is really only of interest to owners of BYD vehicles. See page contents dropdown for an index to this page and a list of what is covered.

BYD Sealion 6: BYD “out hybrids” the Toyota RAV4.

Commenced: June 5, 2024 Updated: June 17th, 2024

2024 June 17 : Added luggage space and Mazda & Mitsubishi comparisons.

Meet the new type of hybrid that comprehensively outsells the RAV 4 in China: The Sealion 6. Just as BYD EVs have taken on Tesla, BYD DM plug-in hybrids will take on Toyota "step to EVs" hybrids, targeting those not yet ready for full EVs with technology that is crushing sales of gas-powered cars China, with BYD in 2022 BYD took vehicle market leadership in China from VW and Toyota with EV first hybrids that are simpler and perform better for the same money as regular gas cars. With hybrid technology so advanced even Toyota is considering adopting it, the Sealion 6 can offer many people what for them may be the best of an EV together with the safety of being able to refuel like a traditional car.

BYD now targets Toyota’s “step to EVs” as DM-i + DMO EV hybrids go global in 2024 with Shark & Sealion 6.

Commenced: January 14, 2024 Updated: May 19th, 2024

*2024 May 28 : More on Sealion 7.

Just as BYD EVs have taken on Tesla, BYD DM plug-in hybrids will take on Toyota "step to EVs" hybrids, targeting those not yet ready for full EVs with technology that is crushing sales of gas-powered cars China. In 2022 BYD took vehicle market leadership in China from VW and Toyota with EV first hybrids that are simpler and perform better for the same money as regular gas cars and began EV exports taking on Tesla outside China. In 2024 BYD will now compete globally with "EV first" hybrids that took market leadership from gasoline cars in China from VW, expanding international sales in the "step to EVS" market, with hybrid technology so advanced even Toyota is considering adopting it. This page looks at how BYD "DM-i"s are different from other hybrids and make them great value "pure EVs" to drive that can be driven on gasoline or electric and reveal specs of BYD export DM-i and DMO EVs as they are revealed.

BYD in Australia. The Atto 3 and beyond.

Commenced: October 21, 2022 Updated: February 1st, 2023

2023 Feb 03- Jan 29: Software updates.

I started a page on the Atto 3 back in April 2022, but the launch in Australia has become so complex that it justifies a separate page, so here it is together with NZ information, starting with content moved from the original page, but updated. This is a page with details about the Australian, and New Zealand rollouts of the Atto 3 and the BYD brand, which from these humble beginnings, could become a major part of the automotive scene in both countries. For the general overview of the Atto 3, including information learnt from the experiences of owners, including those in Australia and New Zealand, see the main Atto 3 page. For the strange events around the Australian launch, and the use of the centre rear seat for baby capsules, read on!

BYD Atto 3 / Yuan Plus: The first 3rd wave EV arrives in Australia, and then the world.

Commenced: April 23, 2022 Updated: December 6th, 2022

2022 December 06 : Awards and sales results so far.

The Atto 3 (or Yuan Plus) is not only EV giant BYD's, first global car, has now become the 3rd largest selling EV globally. Launched as BYDs first global model and the first 3rd wave EV for the west, already outselling Tesla vehicles and #1 selling EV in some markets, the Atto 3 could even challenge to become the world's top selling vehicle. While BYD has exported cars before, the Atto 3 is based on the "global focused" e-platform 3.0, and with a more significant launch into larger markets than previous BYD tentative exports, should spearhead the international push of the world's largest new energy vehicle maker.